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Paladin
Posted: July 07, 2005 10:10 pm


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AND SERVED BY FEDEX TOMORROW TO THE VERMIN IN PLANTATION FLORIDA.

Served by Fedex ....isn't that a classic.

Hey Jon Olin....nice speech on kissing spitzers ass on the bull shit cigerette deal...I wonder how your lips will move when you answer the Federal Racketeering suit.

Actually I think I know what you will say..something like this you weasel



"Oops....we fucked up....oh no...not really, it was CarL Donaway and Dave Anderson, they lied to us...we were bullshitted into thinking Airborne was a first class outfit..it's not our fault ....we're good Krauts...har har...wink..wink..."

"Actually the truth of the matter is we knew it all along but we needed Market Share so we bought the DOG anyway.....we had a plan...a good plan...thanks to the marvelous Bankruptcy Code of good old America, we moved all the assests of Airborne, Inc and Airborne Express, Inc to DHL Holdings (USA)....man are we smart...I'm sure we will make Donald Trump proud. Yep we have no responsibilty for shit past 1-1-2005. God bless the bankruptcy code....and lastly folks, tell that stupid fuck Paladin that he can take his $2 BILLION in claims and blow it out his ass."


Jon now holds up his middle finger and tells the world to kiss the good old Hun ass. ohmy.gif
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Posted: July 08, 2005 02:10 am


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The folks at UPS and FedEx must be having some big laughs at DHL's expense. Things were bad after black tuesday, but I never thought they would get this bad.





Just wait for the criminal inditements....it will get worse....or better depending on your perspective
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Posted: July 10, 2005 09:06 am


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Paladin......Don't leave us hanging....Who filled a class action? Does it include past and present I/cs? How long does it take to certify? Are all I/cs aware of this? Is this public information? The reason I ask these questions is that on an earlier post you hinted that the Huns had made some changes in thier corperate structure to avoid payments for past sins...... My way of thinking is that if Airborne/DHL is found guilty of the charges, they will have a bunch of pissed off I/cs that handle 60% of this garbage for free and now will have been told that they were being ripped also. Not good for the image do you think?

Dear Broke Dick IC
I'll post the suit soon...I'm in process of getting copy....based on what I know maybe the following will answer your questions. Just remember however that I am just a bozo from Fresno. I guess that was a disclaimer huh??

#1. It includes past and present IC's
#2. Filed in New York I think..more details soon.
#3. How long to certify??/ Depends on who you talk to..some say years..I say less than one year....once the class is certifies it will include very precise definitions of the class and probably some sub classes. Then DHL/Airborne will have to produce info the help notify all members of class.
#4. Depending on other "parallel" actions, ie, Federal Criminal suits, the case could be put on hold for years. Just like what happened to Gormans Federal suit....He looks like he is going back to Arbitration but Federal suits against indidual defendants were put on hold.
#5. If for some reason the Feds let a Civil action go forward I think there might be a chance for a Directed Verdict on civil matters. Good old flickering tongue Jim Collins pretty much made the case with his production of documents.
#6. Yes the Huns moved shit around, I'm assuming it gives them the opportunity to weasel out on liabilties of Airborne Express Inc. I really don't expect them to play their "I don't have any money" card for years or at least when it would cost them Billions.
#7. Pissed off IC's doing something???? You need to get off crack pronto...they won't do shit...all DHL has to do is throw them a bone and they shut up really quick. God knows what those would do for $30 more per route per day.
#8. I would rather speculate on what would happen when Jim Carson gets his hands on certain documents.....I see all IC's being Union, all at once, all over the country. Then the question comes up, does DHL still need the IC's???? Maybe Jim and a good IC Association could work out a deal. Who knows????
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Posted: July 11, 2005 08:27 am


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Thanks Paladin...I agree with most of what you say. I do think 99% of all I/cs did not know how they were getting screwed, and could not prove it. With the facts becoming public...They will band together.

Just like a "Band of Brothers" huh???

I'll have to see it to believe it...

Now if they were to actually use their head and join forces, what do you think the first item to negotiate would/should be????
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Posted: July 12, 2005 10:57 pm


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Looks like a lot of bull shit to me....but it might be of interest to someone.

American Arbitration Association Policy on Class Arbitrations


On October 8, 2003, in response to the ruling of the United States Supreme Court in Green Tree Financial Corp. v. Bazzle , the American Arbitration Association issued its Supplementary Rules for Class Arbitrations to govern proceedings brought as class arbitrations. In Bazzle , the Court held that, where an arbitration agreement was silent regarding the availability of class-wide relief, an arbitrator, and not a court, must decide whether class relief is permitted. Accordingly, the American Arbitration Association will administer demands for class arbitration pursuant to its Supplementary Rules for Class Arbitrations if (1) the underlying agreement specifies that disputes arising out of the parties' agreement shall be resolved by arbitration in accordance with any of the Association's rules, and (2) the agreement is silent with respect to class claims, consolidation or joinder of claims.


The Association is not currently accepting for administration demands for class arbitration where the underlying agreement prohibits class claims, consolidation or joinder, unless an order of a court directs the parties to the underlying dispute to submit their dispute to an arbitrator or to the Association.


Commentary to the American Arbitration Association's Policy on Class Arbitrations, February 18, 2005


It has been the practice of the American Arbitration Association since its Supplementary Rules for Class Arbitrations were first enacted to require a party seeking to bring a class arbitration under an agreement that on its face prohibits class actions to first seek court guidance as to whether a class arbitration may be brought under such an agreement. The Association's practice has been neither to commence administration of a case nor to refer such a matter to an arbitrator until a court decides that it is appropriate to do so. The Association's determination not to administer class arbitrations where the underlying arbitration agreement explicitly precludes class procedures was made because the law on the enforceability of class action waivers was unsettled; the Association takes no position as to whether such clauses are or should be enforceable.


In a recent review of this practice by the Association's Executive Committee it was agreed that this practice should be maintained in light of the continued unsettled state of the law. Courts in different states and different federal circuits have reached differing conclusions concerning the preclusion of class actions by agreement and "gateway" issues generally. However, the courts that have confronted the question have generally concluded that the decision as to whether an agreement that prohibits class actions is enforceable is one for the courts to make, not the arbitrator. In fidelity to its Due Process Protocols, the Association will continue to require all proceedings brought to it for administration to meet the standards of fairness and due process set forth in those protocols, but the Association will not seek to make decisions concerning class action agreements that the courts appear to have reserved for themselves.


The Executive Committee also determined at the same meeting to proceed forthwith in the creation of a special committee to explore the possibility of identifying counsel who could assist parties who cannot afford to pay for an attorney in arbitral proceedings. This effort would supplement the Association's current ability to provide arbitrators who will serve pro bono , or for a reduced fee, in appropriate cases.


The Association will continue to monitor developments in this rapidly evolving intersection of arbitration and the courts .


Click here to view the Supplementary Rules for Class Arbitrations

Click here to view the Class Arbitration Case Docket ohmy.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif
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Posted: July 14, 2005 07:58 pm


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If all of the I/cs were working off the same script, I think the first thing to negotiate would be that during rate adjustment periods, we would bring in our own expert to dispute the engineers bullshit. Can you guess who that should be?
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Ya, our expert knows more than their experts....actually their engineers are nothing but fucking lap dogs for Cartage Contracts. They are told to get to a number and then they do it. However while your idea is important it is not what I would put at the top of the list to negotiate with DHL. Now when I say "negotiate", please remember how much I like Jimmie SR.

Actually before negotiations really started Jimmie SR would request and receive an automatic 30% increase for all IC's and THEN we would start talking about shit like "the rules" of rate change requests.

Actually the first thing I would get is DHL has to give 12 months notice to do anything to the contract and the IC only has to give 30 days notice.

The rest should be easy from then on.
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Posted: July 14, 2005 09:47 pm


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I just added something else to my list of why I don't like the AAA.
Not only don't the dumb shits not know what "prevailing party" means, they are slow as shit in posting the new Class Action Complaint against DHL. Man, am I getting pissed. ohmy.gif


I know about 545 members of Congress want to see what the Huns are doing to about 300 small American Businessmen. (and women, excluding Dorthy of course).
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Paladin
Posted: July 28, 2005 10:55 pm


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The death of DHL is on it's way....ship American...boycott the Huns



www.adr.org/si.asp?id=1932......READ THIS
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Posted: July 28, 2005 11:16 pm


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when will the death of dhl start im getting tired of waiting






Go to the link...print the suit...tell all your neighbors..make sure the newspapers get a copy....call your congressman...tell everyone you get ahold of to run the Huns out of the USA....that is after they leave about $2BILLION for my IC buddies.

And help me on the Boycott....coming soon to your local theater
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Posted: June 19, 2009 02:35 pm


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Got a call from my steward yesterday----the news is DHL is going to pay 11 weeks severance 40 hr per wk, health and welfare, pension This is for all laid off drivers with 6 plus years. Not sure of any more details, was told wed know more on Friday. Any one else hear about this?


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Posted: July 14, 2009 06:09 am


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QUOTE (gloryforixseal @ June 19, 2009 12:35 pm)
Got a call from my steward yesterday----the news is DHL is going to pay 11 weeks severance 40 hr per wk, health and welfare, pension This is for all laid off drivers with 6 plus years. Not sure of any more details, was told wed know more on Friday. Any one else hear about this?

Yeah, we heard about this a long time ago.
That is the severence package, you will get two weeks pay (40 HOUR$$ MAX) for each year worked since the merger, up to 11 weeks total.
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Posted: October 02, 2009 11:23 pm


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Paladin...As you can see by the childish actions of several posters in the general section of the website, its either time to close this baby down or remove the children that bash each other. Enough is enough. This website served for a good purpose for those ex DHL employees to bash the company, then moved on. Now it has become a bashing site. Grimreaper would agree, enough already. Thanks for your time and good luck to you!!! Have fun in southern California. smile.gif
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